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CPC to review two developments on PlymouthThe A2 City Planning Commission, meeting on Thursday this week, has two public hearings on developments along Plymouth Road on their agenda (pdf). One is the Upland Green redevelopment of the Diehl junkyard at Plymouth and Upland (gmap), discussed on this site around its first hearing and tabling in April. From the description on the agenda, it looks like the developer reacted to at least some of the input that I and others gave at the first hearing: “That’s all you want to do with the site?! Think bigger!” Public Hearing and Action on Upland Green Zoning and Planned Project Site Plan, 2.64 acres, 1771 Plymouth Road. A request to zone this site C1A (Campus Business District) and a proposal to construct a 11,020-square foot, three-story building totaling 52.75 feet in height for commercial use and a 23,844-square foot, two-story building for office and retail uses and 154 parking spaces (some underground) (tabled at 4/19/05 meeting) – Staff Recommendation: Approval The previous proposal included a similar two-story building accompanied by a one-story restaurant building with half the square footage; only 9 parking spaces have been added. I’ll try to snag the site plan from City Hall and comment on the layout of the buildings. I assume the three-story building will be along Plymouth, since the Upland neighbors to the back of the site are height-sensitive. The Plymouth Green Crossings PUD project, at Plymouth and Green (gmap), was previously reviewed by CPC in October last year. Public Hearing and Action on Plymouth Green Crossings PUD Zoning District and PUD Site Plan, 8.79 acres, northwest corner of Plymouth and Green Roads. A request to rezone this site from RE (Research District) to PUD (Planned Unit Development District) and a proposal to construct a mixed-use development containing three buildings with first floor retail uses totaling 21,336 square feet and 35 residential units on the second and third floors totaling 47,697 square feet; a 5,900-square foot restaurant building; a 4,116-square foot bank building; and 264 parking spaces (some in garages)- Staff Recommendation: See Staff Report. I didn’t post the agenda text or look at the site plan last time, so I can’t tell how this is different (if at all) from last time. I noted in last year’s post the existence of three-story buildings with condos above retail and the two one-story buildings, all of which still appears to exist, along with plenty of parking. « Previous Article Support Union Workers and Safer Airplanes Next Article Breaking: Largest Asian Earthquake in Last 100 Years » |
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The 2nd & 3rd-story residential is on top of the commercial, spans the driveway, and tops the stairwell, with a proposed “rooftop garden” accessible to the residents. The 11k sqft is just the first floor commercial segment; looks like the residential totals about 31k (it doesn’t say; I’m just subtracting), in 20 units with 42 bedrooms. The building is nearly lot-line to lot-line across the Plymouth frontage, with a driveway through the first floor.
The back building is unchanged – 2 stories with some underground parking, set towards the rear (away from the intersection) corner of the site. Rezoning had originally been proposed for “C3 – fringe commercial”; now for “C1A – campus-oriented commercial.
It’s a vast improvement on the previous proposal, IMHO, and seems to be something the neighbors on Upland are okay with also (included in the staff report are notes from a July meeting between ~10 neighbors and the development team to discuss revisions to the proposal).
—Murph Oct. 5 '05 - 05:50PM #
—John Q Oct. 5 '05 - 06:49PM #
—Murph Oct. 5 '05 - 07:19PM #
Blah.
—Murph Oct. 5 '05 - 07:50PM #
At this point I’m just throwing stuff in so that I can google it in six months…
—Murph Oct. 5 '05 - 07:57PM #
I have to admit that C1A (Campus Business District) is a very scary zoning code to me. I don’t know what it means, but it doesn’t sound good, why is there a separate code for “campus”?
You would think that Diehl would not be a good neighbor, but they have been there for a very long time, are locally-owned, and have always taken pride in their service (as an aside, they have a nifty web site if you are looking for auto parts). I have very fond memories of going to Diehl as a kid and getting giant inflated inner tubes so we could go sledding. Mostly I think it might be a case of “better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.” The neighbors knew exactly what to expect from Diehl, they don’t know that with any new development.
The Plymouth Green Crossing plan worries me a bit. I think that this is a prime area for redevelopment, but it shouldn’t be more of the same. Interestingly enough, that area has a lot of housing, is quite walkable, has a grocery store, post office, hotels, drug store, and a lot of jobs. It also seems entirely unwalkable and auto-oriented (Green Road is extraordinarily wide north of Plymouth Rd.). I think there are a lot of opportunities for a good development at this site that could promote the walkability of the area—hopefully that is what is proposed. There is a large wet area in the front though that might or might not be buildable. I’ll have to take a look at what is proposed.
—Juliew Oct. 5 '05 - 08:37PM #
—Juliew Oct. 5 '05 - 08:42PM #
Tried to check the code online but it’s down – but I’m guessing that the campus zoning has less-stringent parking and setback requirements due to the nature of most commercial development in the campus area. Outside of it, suburban-style zoning seems to rule.
—John Q Oct. 5 '05 - 08:43PM #
The big problem with Diehl, for decades, has been that they block the sidewalk on Plymouth with junk cars, etc.
—David Cahill Oct. 5 '05 - 09:19PM #
And, yes, Juliew, I consider it unfortunate irony that we have a project that seems an excellent example of developer, neighbors, and CPC working together to figure out what’s best for all involved paired with a “more of the same” project that just re-emphasizes Plymouth’s existing ex-urban nature.
—Murph Oct. 6 '05 - 03:05AM #
—Juliew Oct. 7 '05 - 03:16PM #
Plus, the project is “four stories or less,” which fits into the vision of Ann Arbor expressed in the B. V. H.
—David Cahill Oct. 8 '05 - 03:45PM #